Saturday, April 25, 2009

Who/What would you be willing to die for? .... Christ suggests Selfishness!

Hey all, it's me rambling again =)... and as usual trying to stir the pot up a little bit... and as usual I would like to point out that what I'm writing here is merely what I've learned, it's far from infallible, and hence I would encourage you to rebuke me if you think I'm wrong, even in the slightest, or (heavens forbid =P) to agree with me and add something which you think my argument is missing.


But to be totally honest with you I don't really think the above title is really at all untrue...

Before you start pulling out your pitchforks and torches to flame me, allow me to demonstrate how what I'm saying is true.

But first some preamble...

These days, "selfishness" has become a crime against humanity, its evils are declaimed by countless philosophers, politicians, social activists, religious leaders and the rest of the "ethical" world. They define this "selfishness" as acting in a way solely for your own benefit. An example of this is someone who, not considering the needs of others in a company, embezzles money from his boss. People will say that this person is focussing on themselves, rather than others, like his co-employees and boss, and because of this he causes them harm (in this case loss of money). You could think of a million and one examples of this happening, they would say. But let us examine what comes of this philosophy. People go as far as to say that you shouldn't do any action for your own benefit, but only for the benefit of others...

In response to this vilification of "selfishness", people have become too afraid to do anything for their own benefit, or that they enjoy, because it might "negatively impact on other people", and then feel self-righteous in their self-deprecation... Don't believe me? Well take for example a married couple (let's call them Anne and Bob, just because it means I can abbreviate them to A and B) on a sunny Saturday off. A knows that B likes to go bush-walking on his days off, and suggest to him that they do so, seeing as it is such a beautiful day outside... B however notices that she is sacrificing what she wants to do for him, as she prefers to go swimming. Not wanting to be selfish, he suggests that instead they go swimming... there then ensues a battle of self-righteousness, with neither wanting to give into the other, and therefore prove that they are of lesser moral calibre than the other. They eventually decide to stay home, as it's to late to do anything by the time that they've finished, and both leaves the discussion having been disappointed, but satisfied in their own self-righteousness.

Do you see what I mean here now? These two were so concentrated on what was better for the other, that they didn't realise that they were actually hurting each other. Or for a simpler example, take for instance the man who refuses to eat anything, as by doing so he's being "selfish", as in eating something he's profiting only himself, or the one who refuses to take a pay rise, and therefore isn't able to pay for car repairs, which means he has to walk to work each day, costing hours with clients to the company.

But I don't want just to show that "Selflessness" is wrong, as I said above, I want to show that "Selfishness" isn't just good sense, it is actually good full stop.

Selfishness, or looking out for yourself is in itself not a bad thing. Because I cannot think of a simpler example, take for instance the example of salvation. Who out of you (if you are saved that is) can honestly say that they gave their life to Christ for the sake of someone else? No, your first thought was for the only way you could possibly ever be eternally saved, and this can hardly be attributed as being a bad thing.

No I want to put forward that the problem is not that people are too selfish in the world as it is, but that people aren't nearly selfish enough. We are too easily satisfied. The man who cheats on his wife might be described as "selfish", but in reality, his problem isn't that he's being selfish as really he's being selfless, as he's harming himself in the long run by harming the edifying relationship he has with his wife... what his problem is is that he's failing to see things in the long run. The manager who embezzles funds not only risks being caught, but also harms the company, which ultimately, he is a part of. The list goes on... and I haven't even touched on eternal consequences! One could go as far as to describe just about any sin as actually being selfless on an eternal scale, as what is more self-sacrificing than condemning oneself to eternal torment? The problem is Satan blinds our eyes, telling us to focus on the present, on the instant gratification which brings downfall.

The Bible supports this, selfish language is used all throughout The Bible, for example, storing up riches in heaven is hardly selfless, is it? I mean even the 2 commandments which sum up the law support it. The second commandment is; "love your neighbour AS you love YOURSELF". The obvious corollary of this being that we are supposed to love ourselves (unless you think Jesus is saying that we aren't supposed to love our neighbours?). Also the first commandment (not as in 10 commandments again, I mean the 2 that Jesus gave), doesn't speak against selfishness? For what truly is more selfish than loving and serving a God (with all your heart and soul and mind) who promises you eternal riches and rewards to which this all world cannot compare?

So what can we take from this? Well for one, you don't have to feel guilty about taking care of yourself, just make sure you're doing it with an eternal perspective. Also, we can draw from this (if you draw it out enough), that feeling good or happy isn't necessarily a bad thing, now you may think that this self evident, but there have been so many groups through history who have taught that the best way to worship God is through self-penitence, (take for example what some monks used to do...).

Now note, I haven't said anywhere in this post that it's okay to act in a way that is to harm another for your own good. Far from it. The point I am trying to make is that someone who is truly selfish will act in ways which are good for others, as they are also good for them self, usually in this life, if not, then in the next.

So my concluding comment for this post is that we are often asked by the media, or by friends, or whoever, "who or what would you die for". How many people can honestly say that they are in the process of dying in the full service of themselves?

Yours In Christ... Thumpy.

9 comments:

  1. Wow, I wonder if anyone managed to read through to the interesting bits... I hope so... didn't realise how long it was when I was writing it... succinctness is most definitely not my strong point =P

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  2. I read it! And liked it a lot, too.

    I've had a few similar conversations with my Mum, who's a ridiculously wise woman of God. I remember her explaining to me when I was maybe late primary school age, about loving your neighbour as you love yourself - so I should love myself! I thought that seemed ridiculous because our culture says loving ourselves is TERRIBLE. I think there's a difference between loving ourselves in a positive and negative way, though. I think you put it well when you explained that loving ourselves in a negative way is selfless because it's only harming ourselves in the long run.

    Anyway. I think it's an interesting thing to consider, and one that we sometimes forget. Certainly we need to remember that in caring for other people, we're being selfish because ultimately we'll reap the rewards!

    I'm actually really tired right now so perhaps I'll come back and re-read this when my mind isn't half-asleep and probably babbling incomprehensively.

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  3. hmm, I get what you're saying. I think it comes down to thinking with your head or your heart. If you concentrate being selfless in a material sense, you concentrate on the specifics (e.g. swimming vs walking). Or you can focus on the big picture.

    Cheating on your wife is selfish btw, whether it's actually beneficial for you in the long run is irrelevant ;)

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  4. Well Jon, that's the exactly the point I was trying to make, to be totally honest, it comes down to defining selfishness.

    however, I would see selfishness as acting in a way that is beneficial for you, and being as selfish as possible includes the long run. so if one was to take that definition, selfishness is a good thing.

    just to be a bit clearer, a part of my argument which falls down is that my definition of selfishness is slightly different to the real worlds, in that the world would define it more in terms of instant gratification. but I don't believe that this is really what the word implies. being selfish in the short run is usually bad, but being selfish with an eternal perspective is good... so in that point of view the long run is relevant...

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  5. great article chris, and a great start to this blog. i think your comment just prior to this about misusing the word 'selfish' hit the mark. like most english words it has more than one definition and the one that you mean for this article is closer to 'self-interested'. i think. in any case, this was thought provoking (blog's purpose is successful!) as i've been wondering myself lately about toiling for god with the selfish purpose of storing up treasures in heaven.

    the conclusion i came to on that was that it was okay to do it as long as it wasn't for that reason alone. i think there is a wide amount of scripture that supports the idea of serving God out of the overflow of your love for Him, as in, serving him because you can't imagine doing anything else, because you MUST. i like that reasoning too.

    what do you reckon? love God, and selfishly pursue the kingdom He has promised us?

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  6. Hey Thumpy! (and others)

    Let me just say, this blog thing is awesome. And i have totally been sucked into it. Hopefully not too much cos I lack time a lot of the time. But yeh... Since Im a consultant, ill do some disclaimers before I comment:

    1. Blogs, like any discussion need to be in humility. Like any discussion it needs to be in love. Otherwise I probs wont comment.

    2. Despite it being a blog, 2 tim 2:14 - 21 still stands... Otherwise I probs wont comment.

    Alrity!

    about Thumpy's post...

    Your absolutely right! We are selfish, self-seeking. We want to save ourselves. Salvation is all about us right! No point putting up your hand for someone else in the alter call. It just wont work.

    It's the great oxymoron! DENY yourself.... for yourself!

    But what happens after that? After we have given our life over, including our selfish ambitions?

    The truth is, we no longer live for ourselves, cos we don’t need to worry about that anymore. As we give, we receive (Philippians 4:13 and many more). As we spend time on those who can't give anything back, we get exalted (Luke 14).

    God is our father, and he loved us so much that he GAVE. God is not selfish; he stooped to nothing, even to death. Because he was confident in who he was.

    We need to continually be sanctified, which means becoming holy or saved. Its a process.

    Selfishness needs to always be a thing of the past though. I wanna give, cos if I am giving to others, it means I have the capacity to. And thats a good place to be.

    My ending comment will be:

    GIVE!

    love love

    -Victor

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  7. Hi Vics,

    Great post! Glad to see you involved as well.

    I think what Chris is trying to say though... That by dying to ourselves, we save ourselves. So ultimately by helping others, we help ourselves. There's nothing wrong with that though, as long as our purpose is to do God's will. We just get blessed along the way!

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  8. P.S. you know how I was saying the captchas are really weird?

    My last captcha was "loner" (insert sad face here). I'll just go stand in the corner by myself now.

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  9. wow. those captchas are getting mean.

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